Just Marry Her #2

From Helen Roy, we have this:

Dear Helen,

I’m 28, and I’ve been with my boyfriend for four years. He’s 38, successful, and I really love him.

He’s very into “red pill” content online. When we first started dating, I didn’t pay much attention to it. I thought it was just guy stuff, bodybuilding, “locker room talk,” edgy humor, whatever. He’s said more than once that women “lose value” when we turn 30 and “hit the wall.” He never says this about me specifically, and I guess because I’ve been younger than that since we’ve been together, I thought it didn’t apply. But 28 suddenly feels very close to 30, and more and more, hearing the man I love talk about women like a depreciating asset really hurts my feelings. I tried to bring this up and he brushed it off saying, “you’re different because we’re going to get married.” But that doesn’t make sense. If anything, I feel like single women are less likely to lose their looks because they don’t have to go through pregnancy.

This year, he’d promised to propose. Instead, he told me he’s “not ready” because he needs to see more proof that I’m capable of running a household. He says he doesn’t like the way I clean or the way I “manage” things, and that if I want to be a wife, I need to show him I can handle it.

I graduated from a baby Ivy and had a budding career when we met. He “retired” me two years ago, the logic being that once we were married, this is how our life would look anyway. It feels like he put me on a timer and then waited it out himself. I’m trying so hard to be good enough, but I’m exhausted and scared that the closer I get to 30, the less likely he is to fulfill his promise.

I love him. We have a real soul connection. I see these as red flags but ones that can be fixed. So my question is–how do I address them?

Sincerely,

Heartsick

Age 38 is normally a time when men can be left to make their own decisions, but the fact of the matter is, the kind of wisdom that the present situation demands often comes after 40. Even men in their 30s are, to some degree, relying on their elders for guidance. Or, men of the same age or younger that have relevant experience and viewpoints.

I have argued that we are in an era of Triage, where men should concentrate on the roughly 1/3d or 30% of women who can potentially make good wives and mothers. We can’t save them all, especially since most don’t want to be saved. If the legal situation changes, maybe we won’t have to rely so much on a woman’s individual character. If a woman goes bad, then good riddance, but it is not such a problem. You keep your money and your kids. But, for now, this is what we deal with.

This woman is, I would say, definitely in that Top 30% category, and probably Top 10%, and even Top 5% if she isn’t ugly. And, this man and woman have been together for a while. This man should Just Marry Her, and be quick about it. Get it done in under six months. Then get started on at least three children, and don’t dilly dally there either. You can take whatever precautions you feel are necessary from a legal standpoint. Prenups, and avoiding the marriage license. But, just get it done.

“Running a household” is an important part of being a Good Wife and Mother, but it isn’t aerospace engineering. A willingness to do it, and to learn how to do it well, is really all that can be expected. Learning how to cook well is something that is normally done during the first two or three years of marriage. Housekeeping is trivial. It just takes a willingness and enthusiasm to do it. If a woman can’t push the button on the washing machine without complaining about “oppression!,” that is obviously a problem. But, if she is enthusiastic about a clean and tidy, and on a higher level, beautiful house, as is normal for women, that is really all you need.

Sickwife

In the annals of bizarre things on TikTok, we now have Sickwife, a young woman with some terrible disease that “makes her body explode from the inside out,” (maybe it is Multiple Sclerosis), who is looking for a husband with good health insurance.

No, really. And, it appears that she is successful, with many men apparently volunteering for this role. There is some kind of lesson here for young women who want to get married. I think it is to say that you want to get married, rather than leaving things a vague haze of “relationship.” In other words, a sort of primordial Courtship. It helps that she is pretty, but not really that pretty. Mostly she looks Rich, which is because she came from a wealthy family (“I did Cotillion twice”), but apparently upon turning 18 they drove out to the Midwest and abandoned her by the side of the road, permanently, which is just one more weird thing to add to a weird story.

Fake Virgins

Today, being a virgin is so unfashionable, that it is about the only thing a young woman says that might actually be true. But, this will inevitably change as more men begin to act on what they already know is in their best interests.

Then, we will have the flood of Fake Virgins. How about this girl — Fake or Real?

Too bad she isn’t a Face Tattoo Virgin.

Is Having a Boyfriend Embarrassing Now?

Is having a boyfriend embarrassing now?” asked Vogue Magazine. The article is basically Feminist Propaganda, as one would expect from a major magazine. Girlbosses can’t have even the attachment of a regular partner.

But, the recent popularity of this proposition reflects the reality that the “boyfriend” is becoming more and more nonsensical, and just plain dysfunctional. Women rightly wonder if they should really participate in this “boyfriend” crap. The basic idea of ditching the “boyfriend” doesn’t sound too bad to me. The term is inherently juvenile, as anyone knows who has tried using the word over the age of 30. The reason for this is that “boyfriends” mostly didn’t exist before the 1950s. A “boyfriend” is basically a part of “dating,” and “dating” is basically fornication and concubinage. The term arose in the 1950s, when “dating” became mainstream, accompanied by a burst in unmarried teenage pregnancies. In those days, they had the good discipline to often get married afterward. But also in those days, whether prompted by pregnancy or not, people got married young. The median age of marriage for women was 20. Their “boyfriends” were actually boys — that is to say, teens. Marrying your High School Sweetheart is what most women did. Among the better families, you often married your College Sweetheart.

Part of this was related to the rise of High School itself. Before 1940, most Americans didn’t graduate from High School, and this includes women. They often worked, and lived at home, while also aiming to Get Married Young, around Age 18-22. They were not locked up with boys their same age at High School all day. They were out working or, in any case, looking for husbands, in the ages of 20-35 — not Boys. They called them “Beaus.”

Today, the process of Dating, as a path to Marriage, has become rather silly. Often, even those couples that do get married, are a couple for an average of 58.7 Months (just short of five years). And, that’s just the average — some couples are, obviously, more than average. And that’s even if it works out. There are a lot of cases of couples being together for 3-5 years, and not getting married. And there are a lot of cases of women wanting to start the path to marriage, and not getting to the Boyfriend stage at all. They end up as 30yo “never had a boyfriend” girls. Some of these “never had a boyfriend” girls are whores. But a lot of them, I think, actually tried to establish a monogamous long-term “boyfriend” relationship, and failed over and over.

So, for reasons completely different than Vogue, I also think that we should ditch the “boyfriend.” Those marriage-minded women (who ignore the advice of Vogue) should forget about “boyfriends” and instead go straight to “Courtship,” which also means going straight to marriage. But, you also have to drop the entire framework of “dating;” in other words, fornication and concubinage. When you try to tell a man “oh yeah I was ‘dating’ some other guy, but it didn’t work out, so now I want to try Courtship,” that usually doesn’t work well. It is not actually so bad — a woman can learn and mend her ways — and these “born again virgins” can actually work out well if their previous number of partners is under five. But, from a man’s perspective, why not just go for the virgin girls, and skip these scratch-and-dent items?

For one thing, that 18yo girl will be 28 in ten years — still a hot item, with a high sex drive. After 20 years, she will be 38, which is still pretty young.

Once you drop “dating,” and “boyfriends,” women should also want to get married young (18-20), for the simple reason that 19yo women are horny, because they are in their prime baby-making years so naturally they want to make babies. Don’t fight it. Get married, and then have a lot of sex, and have at least three children before Age 25.

Flying Out To See Her

SigmaFrame relates the story of a woman who married young.

When my father started looking for men for my sister and me to date, we were flooded with dates by VERY ATTRACTIVE men. I am talking about doctors, engineers, lawyers — very high status men. Why?  Because we had a high MMV (at that time).

The man I married paid for a plane ticket (as he was living in another state) to come see me for our first date.  Why did he do that?  He told our sons the reason why.  Even back in the day, pretty Christian virgins in their early 20’s were hard to come by (those were his words not mine).

That is it!  Those were my qualifications. I was a virgin, pretty, and in my early 20’s. Just THAT got me a date with a man who paid for a PLANE TICKET to come see me. OK, it took a bit more to get a wedding proposal out of him (ha ha!), but realistically speaking, pretty much ANY woman could do as well as I did — IF she works her MMV to her advantage during the time her MMV is high.

Would you buy a plane ticket to meet a woman like this?

I would. Why?

First, we are not “dating.” We are discussing marriage — basically Courtship. Also, since we are getting to the fly-out-and-see-me stage, with a young woman who lives with her father, obviously the man has already passed whatever screening process you can do remotely. So, we are already probably 70% of the way to getting married. And, since there is no sex (or cohabitation, or a lot of other things) before marriage, there is not really much to do before deciding to get married. You can probably do it in three days. You aren’t going to have to go back and forth many times on a plane. You aren’t going to have a “long distance relationship.” You just get married, or you don’t. $500 for a plane ticket is a lot, but $500 to get a wife is pretty cheap. How many dinner dates is that?

I think a lot of men these days would like to find a virgin wife under Age 23. But, men just daydream about it, without actually doing it. There actually seem to be a lot of beautiful women these days, under Age 23, and actually virgins, whether they are active Christians or not, and who actually prioritize marriage and family. There are a lot of “I thought I would be married by Age 22 and have three children” girls.

So, if you just go and look for such a girl, they shouldn’t be hard to find. This should be Courtship, not “dating.” There should be an explicit expectation, among all involved, that you might get married within six months, or maybe you won’t. No open-ended “dating.” Also, no sex before marriage, which simplifies things a lot.

75% of women arriving at Harvard are virgins

And then there is this:

When my father started looking for men for my sister and me to date,

These women themselves didn’t pick their partners. Because who would they pick? Did you guess — the guy with the best pictures on Tinder? No, their father found their husbands. Of course the women had some choice afterwards, among these men that already had passed their father’s first screening. It would be interesting to learn exactly how their father found all these Suitors.

Paying For The Sins Of Their Sisters and Mothers

Young women today — many of whom are actually virgins — are not really to blame for the terrible state of affairs between men and women today. They are paying the price for the sins of their older sisters, and their mothers. In the 1990s, women whored through their twenties, and then decided to become wives around Age 28-32. Mostly, men married these whores. It didn’t work out well. We now look back on all the marriages from the 1990s and 2000s, and we say: what a disaster.

Especially with MeToo, men began to distance themselves from women in the workplace, avoiding any interaction beyond the necessities of business, or any situation where a man and a woman were alone together. The “metoo” term began in 2006, but its widespread use began in 2017 — when today’s 20 year olds were 12 years old. The behavior of men was a rational response to an epidemic of false claims by women in the corporate setting, which was also reflected, somewhat, in a pattern of false claims in universities.

Behind all this were the horrible and corrupt laws of the land, expressed in divorce courts, and also corporations that were sued by women employees for one thing or another. Nevertheless, women did not hesitate to use these advantages, thus expressing their moral complicity, and also, ultimate responsibility. There were also many millions of women who did not use the divorce courts to pillage their husbands and steal his children. Without the voluntary actions of women, nothing at all would have happened.

Especially since most men are older than the women they are interested in, it is easy to blame these women for things that they probably don’t even know about. They simply enter a society with certain patterns, without knowing where these patterns came from. The marriage-minded man of 27 already has perhaps five years of workplace woman-avoidance behind him, hardened into unthinking habit. The 20 year old woman that he might be interested in knows nothing of this.

Basically, it comes down to Telling The Bitches What To Do. There is no real point in discussing these things, because they don’t know what you are talking about. They weren’t there. So, you just tell them what to do. The nice thing is that many of these younger women can probably be made useful, as wives and mothers.

The first thing to Tell Them Not To Do is wear nose rings, or get tattoos. Just say: Don’t Do It.

Meanwhile, At The University

Recent report from a university.

Personally, I don’t think there is any particular “reason.” Young people pick up cues from their environment. “Don’t look and don’t talk” is now the norm in every mainstream corporate office, and a lot of gyms as well. I don’t think the situation at universities has become so dire that it is necessary there too.

If I was a young person at a university today, I would buck this trend, and make a habit of talking with women (or men) regularly. We used to have dinner parties every Wednesday while in college. It was a constantly rotating mix of regulars and new faces. That’s what I would do, today.

The Rise of Sexless Marriages

Wives withholding sex as a means of manipulation, or even because they plain dislike their husbands, must have been common throughout history. But, it has been becoming more common. Here is a YouTube video with some statistics:

There are a few reasons for this I can imagine:

Falling Testosterone in Men
Married men getting uglier — primarily obesity
Married women getting uglier
Porn

To this we can add a few more:

Feminism making women more exploitive and manipulative than in the past.
More premarital sexual partners means less satisfaction with the man she married. (Alpha Widowing.)
More premarital sexual partners reducing women’s pairbonding capability.
More premarital sexual partners leading to a lack of trust in men, and a tendency towards exploitive behavior. (Slut to Harlot pipeline.)

This is leading to a decline in sex in general.

Even whorish girls don’t get as much sex as a married woman; or a woman in a live-in relationship. Ten guys a year is a lot. It is a hundred bodies in a decade. But that might mean 355 sexless nights a year. And those girls who are not so whorish often get almost nothing. They “put themselves out there,” and attempt to start a monogamous relationship. They end up in situationships or ghosted after a few weeks. Do this two or three times a year, and even without any intentional hookups, you end up with a high body count, and probably a lot of lonely nights as well.

Online dating, in particular, has made many men feel that they have been locked out of the “dating market.” This is not quite true — although women like to go on and on about their “high standards,” most of them are hooking up with what men would consider broke losers. The “high standards” thing is often complete cosplay — fiction with no real-world significance — or an actual effort by women to break the habit of hooking up with broke losers.

Priorities of Young Men and Women

This is amazing.

The highest priority for young men who voted for Trump is: Having Children!

The lowest priority for young women who voted for Harris is: Having Children!

Only 6% of female Harris voters said that they thought Getting Married and Having Children is important.

This is very bad when you consider that most young women are Democrat voters. (58% of Gen Z women voted for Harris, while 56% of Gen Z men voted for Trump.)

Meanwhile:

Among that minority of Trump-voting young women, we find Being Married and Having Children still way down the list, but at least making a decent showing. At the top are Financial Independence and Fulfilling Job/Career, followed by Owning Own Home. I don’t think they mean that their husband has financial independence and owns the shared family home. Even in this Trump-voting minority, young women are all-in on Independence. Of course they will change their mind later. But, during the Peak Marriage Years of 18-22, and up to Age 25, they will be swayed by this kind of indoctrination. Who are those Trump-voting Men going to marry? It is a pretty small pool.

I say that you will have to look for young women — Age 16-22 — who want to be Wives and Mothers. I would prioritize the Stay At Home Wife (and Mother). A woman who prioritizes being a Stay At Home Wife can still work full-time before she becomes a Mother. But, typically, this is not so career-oriented, since she will be planning to leave this job before too long, certainly by Age 26 or so. Peak Childbearing Years are 18-32. You want to have all your children done by Age 32 (at least three), not starting then.

Of course the Stay At Home Wife doesn’t prioritize Financial Independence either, except shared Financial Independence with her husband. She happily lets him pay for everything. But, of course, she is also very frugal, if necessary.

As rare as these women are, they are also underappreciated today. You can even find actual virgins. You just marry them — preferably, before Age 22.

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