At some point, women become sluts. They lose the taste for monogamy. This seems to take place somewhere between 10 and 20 partners. According to this chart, it is somewhere after 15:
Here is Goethe, in Faust Part I (“Night”) from 1808. The number here is, apparently, 12.
Valentine: My Gretchen, see! Young you are still And shrewd enough by no means quite. You manage your affairs but ill. In confidence I tell you, what is more, Since once for all now you’re a whore, So be one then outright!
Gretchen: My brother! God! What words to me!
Valentine: In this game let our Lord God be! Now what is done is done, alas! And as things can, so will they come to pass. With one you started secretly, And more of them there soon will be. When a dozen men have had you down, You’re common then to all the town. When Shame at first is given birth, She is smuggled in upon this earth, And then the veil of night is thrown Around her ears and head; Yes, one would gladly murder her instead. But when both proud and great she’s grown, By daylight then she goes forth openly, And yet has not become more fair to see. The loathsomer her face, straightaway The more she seeks the light of day.
Hookup culture is mostly an orgasm desert for women.
Women’s natural birthright is to be a Sex Goddess, which means: A woman who regularly has multiple orgasms from intercourse. “Multiple” begins at 2, but it can extend to 20+, over a period of two hours or more.
Men’s job is to shepherd women toward this destiny.
It seems like not very men or women are achieving this.
Traditionally, you avoided the damage of young women by getting them young. But, girls are falling to pieces from pretty much the first step beyond Age 13.
It will be harder than ever to find any girl that is decent wife material. Parents are crazy to allow their children to succumb to this madness without opposition. It’s not really that hard: a) homeschool; b) no TV, tik tok, etc. Read old books.
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I've been a teenage girl and I'm in process of raising two of them. Nothing about the horrific rise of gender confusion in girls surprises me. Puberty is an emotional tsunami for girls. Today they face a gross and degraded dating culture in which
I’ve been a teenage girl and I’m in process of raising two of them. Nothing about the horrific rise of gender confusion in girls surprises me. Puberty is an emotional tsunami for girls. Today they face a gross and degraded dating culture in which
2/their only measure of objective value is their micro bikini-fitness and willingness to make themselves sexually available to unscrupulous males. From precious little princess to door mat in 2 seconds, plus the indignities, suffering, and strangeness of a woman’s biology.
3/Their emotional pain is tremendous, even in the best of circumstances. And how many have “best” circumstances? Half perhaps or more have absent fathers, and no real conception of what an honorable, faithful and protective man looks like in action.
4/They see the future before them and it is barren.
They are told to be like the worst of men, sexually aggressive, single-mindedly devoted to getting ahead in their careers, careless of the home and the sweet concerns that fill the hearts of beloved wives and mothers.
5/That they don’t need a man to protect and cherish them and their children. That’s so PATRIARCHY. They are told that the babies they will inevitably, accidentally conceive can be brushed aside with a couple of pills and some EXTRA painful cramps. And that it will be LIBERATING.
6/That they will grow old and have cats, but that they will really really like that. That having 15 grandchildren to take you to church on Sunday by turns is a stupid old dream that has been supplanted by a better future. You ponder abt the cats but think maybe you can have dogs
7/Would you want to grow up to be a WOMAN? If these were your future prospects? At least men have power in the dating game, they don’t have to post pics of their butt on instagram and be derided for their cellulite.
8/And you are on TikTok and instagram and snapchat all day, trying to feel better about yourself. And they say, they ALL say, that you can flip a switch and be a man instead of a woman. No more periods, overstuffed bikinis, emotional blackness like a bottomless pit.
9/So you go for the trans, and you are CELEBRATED. You are the bomb! You have everyone’s attention, even your overworked mom’s and your mostly absent father’s, who are now fighting like rabid dogs over you. While before they mostly made you feel invisible.
10/Being trans, you now have a GROUP, and a banner and a reason for being. You have frequent “medical” visits and ways to measure your “progress” like the deepening of your voice, and your new cool male-pattern baldness.
11/You get a mastectomy and now have the horizontal scars, yes, but they tell you those are beautiful, and your post them on snapchat and get lots of applause and thumbs up. You are BEAUTIFUL! ..finally
12/And you dream of the phalloplasty that will give you a scarred forearm, yes, but you can wear long sleeves. And that will give you real sexual pleasure that you can’t imagine because you’ve never had any but they say it’s real good.
13/And they children you will never bear? That’s NO PROBLEM. Because you can get children all sorts of wonderful, inventive and modern ways, that probably by the time you want them will be funded by the government, like surrogacy and prob. artificial wombs.
14/that you will have love, and companionship, and deep friendships and a family.
Then you learn slowly and painfully that it’s all a lie. That you are just caught up in a weird fad powered by the money interests of a HUGE trans industrial complex.
15/That what was natural and beautiful and tender and soft about you was your budding womanhood and that your future as a mother and wife has been erased, replaced by meds and surgeries, incontinence and emotional lability that gets worse not better.
16/Your desire for suicide intensifies, as you swoop up and down on the tides of giant testosterone injections or patches, a hormone that was never meant for you in those quantities, but for young strong men with battles to fight and homes to build with brawny arms.
17/The winners? Follow the money. The scads of money.
This was an interesting representation of one woman’s experience with Online Dating. Probably, she is somewhat average — not exceptional.
There are some interesting elements here.
First, she swiped right on only 582 out of 15094 men, over a period of six months. That’s 4%. And, Tinder itself probably screened out a lot of the less-appropriate men. Of course, all the other women are also choosing the same 4% of men, or maybe 10% if we allow for a little difference of age and opinion. Then came the reverse-screening. Out of 582 men, 411 (71%) did not either match or begin chatting with her. Apparently, these 4% of men can be choosy. Out of this came 171 chats and 54 dates (0.4%). Is that what women mean by “high standards”? That’s about one new chat partner a day, and a date every three days. Out of this, she got 37 rounds of “casual sex” (every five days) and zero relationships. Does this mean that she never saw even one of these 37 men a second time? Or, maybe she did. It doesn’t sound very healthy either way. Were there any dates, that didn’t lead to sex on the first date, but led to a second date? Were there any second dates at all? Was she hooking up again with her prior hookups, on top of all these new hookups? This does not include all the other things this woman was doing during those six months, including: Work/school connections, bars and clubs, parties, business trips, foreign travel, daytime approaches, other dating apps, Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook, etc. That is a full schedule of whoring.
But, at the same time, we see a lot of selectivity. If she was just interested in casual sex, would only 4% of men do? And only 0.4% that led to actual in-person meetings? Is this what women mean by “I know my worth”? You would think it wouldn’t matter that much. Wouldn’t it at least save a little time and effort if you had a regular FWB rather than starting from scratch again? At least, you could practice together a little bit, and get better at sex, which is often rather bad on the first encounter. Did she hope for a FWB (har!), but was not able to accomplish that? Did she hope for a “relationship”? If she did, that would be pretty crazy, since she should have figured out before #37 that her strategy wasn’t working. Probably, like a lot of women, she would claim that she was “seeking a relationship” this whole time, and actually sort of believed that, although her behavior shows no real attempt to accomplish that.
Obviously, you can’t marry, or even have a “relationship” with, some burned out slag heap like this. And, a lot of women probably have a similar background these days.
Women: What strategy do you have, exactly, to avoid a similar outcome? Or, maybe this is OK with you? Good luck with that.
About 40% of young single women are Fugly. Skip them. But, about the same percentage of men are Fugly too, so it seems like there is a nice match there.
But, I have been thinking recently that, no matter how Fugly a man is, he naturally has a desire for pretty slim women, and, naturally, has limited interest in ugly women. Maybe, interest limited enough that he just doesn’t do whatever is necessary to pair up with one. And if he is (rightfully) uninspired by Fugly women, and rejected by pretty ones, where does that leave him?
And isn’t the same true for women? Do we expect even the ugliest women to be infatuated with ugly men? That would be expecting the impossible.
In the recent past, people became Fugly after they were married, sometime after 40. Regrettable, but it didn’t matter too much.
Fugliness is almost entirely due to preventable factors, especially obesity, but also dress and presentation. Mostly, it is curable.
Even the most tragic Butterface girls are hot enough for some guy somewhere — if they have a healthy slim body.
Even perfect beauty is easily disfigured by obesity.
Don’t Be Fugly is a good principle always, but also, later in life. Age catches up with everyone, but you can be Not Fugly nearly up to Age 70.
Middle aged couple hugging
Romantic senior man kissing a cheerful woman on cheek
Mostly, it is a matter of good diet. Avoid all processed foods. “Single ingredient foods” only. Cook at home.
Also, exercise regularly. But, diet is more important than exercise.
Lastly, try a little bit. Clothing manufacturers have all kinds of attractive clothing available. You just have to wear what they provide for the purpose. But, many people, men and women both, often can’t seem to do this. Land’s End is a purveyor of extremely boring, Middle-America clothing that is nevertheless well made and reasonably attractive. You should aspire to a Land’s End level of fashion, at the very least.
Seriously, most young women do not accomplish even this.
No noserings, blue hair or neck tattoos + a shirt with buttons = You win!
Over time, I’ve come to appreciate that what most young people need today is not “dating,” but social situations that are sub-dating. Basically, group get-togethers of some sort. For one thing, it is very easy to invite someone to a group get-together. It is pretty hard, for most men, to try to wrangle a date out of someone you meet on the street, or is the barest acquaintance. But, it is easy to invite them to a party where there might be 30 people.
Here is my advice for young single people, in college or afterwards.
Plan on regular get-togethers of some sort, typically of about 6-10 people. If you are a guy, aim for a little skew towards women — for example, with 9 people, 5 women and 4 men. When I was in college, we had weekly dinners. There would be a constant rotation of regulars and new friends. I think it was on a Wednesday, which didn’t conflict with weekend plans. This costs time and money. I would make invites free for first-timers, but expect regulars to contribute $20 or so. Probably, over time, you can allow some of the regulars to take over a night or two. We had a lot of fun with this.
I do not like potlucks much, although it can be a way to arrange a big event (20+ people) pretty easily. Make sure that there are tables and chairs for everyone, and proper dishware and glasses. No eating on the sofa. No paper and plastic. Used dishware is super cheap these days, and it would be easy to acquire dishware for 50 if you want to do that kind of event.
You could also have cocktail parties from time to time. I would aim for about two a month, with about thirty guests (depending on the size of your abode). Same mix of regulars and first-timers. I would insist on formal dress (women in dresses and heels; men with jackets; no t-shirts, jeans or sneakers), and have a proper bar with proper mixed drinks, in proper glasses. No red plastic cups. Trade around the bartending duties in 30 minute shifts. Make a menu of cocktails for that evening (and recipes for the bartenders). Again, I would ask for regulars to donate about $20, and free for first-timers.
Even if you are butt-ugly, you can probably get people to come to your party. Here’s a good example.
You can expand this to other sorts of events, such as a BBQ picnic, day at the beach, afternoon of sledding, etc.
I would make an effort to talk with everyone that comes — at least, everyone you would like to get to know.
Over time, you could expand further to weekend trips — a camping or backpacking trip, a canoe trip, a ski trip, a road trip, a museum trip, etc.
Don’t expect people to reciprocate. They will not set up their own dinners and invite you. But, they would probably contribute money, and help out in various ways, if you ask them.
Of course, everyone who comes should give you their contact info so they can be invited to future events. Or, get it if they say they are interested in coming. This is so easy.
Here’s Kevin Samuels, stating that Dating Doesn’t Work for Modern Women.
He makes a number of interesting points here. One of them is, women simply cannot, or do not, make good decisions about choosing men. It seems that those men who have the most firsthand experience in these things, who have seen the most, come to the same conclusion. Women are inherently self-destructive. It doesn’t even make much sense to teach or train women to be less self-destructive, because by the time they finally have the interest and motivation to do so (around the Epiphany Phase, Age 27), too much time has been lost and too much damage has been done.
Even the best of women, who really do want to get married and start having babies before Age 25, can easily drift off toward the right side of this chart over a decade of “dating,” and end up as single as when they began.
Only a woman with an exceptional upbringing can resist alcohol, social networking, and university brainwashing, and for the women who can initially resist it, she will surely succumb after enough time and pressure. It is in this way that AWALT is true: all women who face corrupt influences in their lives will become corrupt and behave in a similar way that degrades their virtue, making them unsuitable for long-term partnerships. But if AWALT is true in describing the universal fall of women in the presence of toxic influences, it must also be true that they possess universal purity in environments which lack bad influences that attack her virtue.
This is why women lived at their fathers’ house until marriage. They got married young. In Pride and Prejudice (1813), which describes upper-class conventions in a healthy Christian society, the heroine Elizabeth Bennet is somewhat apologetic that she is not yet married at Age 20. In the famous 1995 A&E series, Elizabeth and Darcy do not kiss until after their wedding ceremony. The process of courtship is tightly overseen by parents — both in generating opportunities to meet (in this case, dances and house visits), and shunning inappropriate suitors (the charming but corrupt Wickham).
Today, most women are really not fit to be wives and mothers. In this, they are encouraged by the legal system, which, through divorce law and related laws such as the Duluth Model of domestic violence, promotes the destruction of families. Men today look at the two previous generations of men, who tried to make a go of it despite these dangers. Too many of them ended up getting their guts ripped out. Today, most women simply aren’t gonna make it, against the constant disintegrating influence of media, social media, dating apps and the like. As bad as it was in the past, it is far worse now. Men today say: Not me, thanks.
Someone brought up this point to Lori Alexander, the Transformed Wife. Lori is, naturally, in favor of marriage and family, as we are here too. Although I didn’t find the post, as I remember, her response was something like:
During their time of bondage under the Pharaoh [in the era of Moses] the ancient Israelites maintained strong families and had lots of children. They kept their ancient teachings, maintained their religion and ethnic identity, and taught their children good behavior. Eventually, after centuries of slavery, they escaped captivity, and migrated to the Promised Land.
The first response might be: “That’s not exaaaaactly what I was talking about.”
But, the second response might be: “That’s true, as bad as things are today, they were worse then. But, by maintaining a strong family and community, in the face of a government that was the worst imaginable, the ancient Israelites survived and eventually prospered.”
Today, although divorce laws lead many women to destroy their own families, or make life so miserable for their husbands (via divorce threats and other means) that other men today decide that marriage is too unrewarding to contemplate, nevertheless, some women do not do that. They could do that, but they do not.
In other words, women today still can choose to be good wives and mothers, and do that, even though most women won’t. Some women don’t blow up their families and make their husbands miserable, although most women do. Some women are good mothers to their plentiful children, although most women are not.
In the past, these “good wives and mothers” were something of a matter of luck. It was not quite something that people did intentionally. It just sort of happened, as a result of a woman’s character, upbringing and prior history.
But, today, I don’t think that is enough to go on. A man, and a woman, should go about things more intentionally, to have some principle or goal to cling to, so that they won’t be blown about by the constant pressure of media, social media, etc.
Male leadership will be important. A young man should say: I want to find a woman who will participate in a specific project, which is to have a strong family and raise strong children, in the middle of an environment of degeneracy, where most people will slide slowly into a swamp of depravity. I need to have a woman that could take advantage of divorce courts to blow up her family; but will not. And, a woman that could abandon her children to be raised by TikTok, Netflix and the public school, but will not.
Mostly, these young men will not find women who have already adopted some kind of commitment along these lines. They will be somewhat sloppy and unformed, probably with at least some leftist brainwashing. But, if she is young, pretty and a virgin, maybe you can work with it. Just tell her what your plan is, and see if she wants to take part.
Fathers can teach their daughters to find men with these goals in mind. But, don’t dilly dally. Find such men, and then marry your daughters off quickly. 18-20 is a good age for marriage. Because, if a strong marriage and family is your goal, then what are you waiting around for? Some people will say: “Yes, I agree with all that, but I also want my daughter to get a degree in engineering and travel the world, before doing all that.” This is not serious. Only serious people are going to make it.
Unfortunately, we will have to live with these conditions for at least a while longer.
How shall we react? The potential responses for men are:
Don’t live with women. They are just too dangerous. Even if they don’t mean any particular harm, they can do a lot of harm anyway. The present legal environment has taken women’s natural tendency toward chaos and amplified it extravagantly.
Take some kind of action to remedy this legal structure. Write letters to your State congressmen. Write letters to your County or Local governments, sheriffs and police chiefs. They don’t actually get much feedback, and often they really do read your letters. I would put some “educational” material in the letter. For example, you can have a one-paragraph statement of your position: “The Duluth Model is a disaster for families and should be abandoned.” Then, you can have some supporting material for anyone who wants to read further. For example, you can just cut and paste this “Frozen peas” story. Yes, you can do that. This is not school. You can just cut and paste. Look for organizations that take action against this sort of thing, at the local, State and National levels. Give them a little money. I suggest $25.
Every woman that can fog a mirror is going to have some kind of: “Well you should just not do those things that make women angry!” response. But, most men are already too careful as it is. Instead, I would try to educate your woman about the potential dangers that the family faces, if she ever calls the police for any reason. Tell her what she is likely to hear from her friends and family: “Toss him under the bus! He’s abuuuuuuusive!” Unfortunately, many women are almost ineducable. They are stubborn dim bulbs. But, you can take some steps.
Today, we will have to Take A Stand with the better 30% or so of women. Usually, they are not too hard to identify. Form families and have children with these women. At least, pass them on to someone else who will. You still have the Other 70% who are basically “for the streets.” Have fun and be careful.
Women should also read this story. This is what we face today. By “we” I mean not only men, but families, or husbands and wives. The police will blow up your family on a whim even if you never intended that, if you give them a little premise to do so. There are all kinds of incentives today for women to blow up their own families, even by accident. This is not very healthy. But, even despite the existence of these incentives, some women act on them, and some do not. There are a lot of women who do not get divorced, and do not use the threat of easy divorce, even though they could. These are known as “good wives.” Is it possible to be a Good Wife, and also do this? Obviously, not. So, don’t do it. If you are not willing to abstain from this stuff, despite the incentives offered, then no man should marry you. You are unfit for marriage, in the difficult environment we now have today.
It’s OK to be Unfit For Marriage. But, if you are Unfit, then don’t get married or have children. Go have a good time.
Today, there are the Damned and the Saved. Some women will work to preserve their families even despite the many influences blowing up other women’s families everywhere, usually due to the woman’s own actions. Either you are one of those Good Wives, or you are not.