Marriage and DV Laws

Here’s “Pearly” reacting to a video describing the sickening details of some marriage, divorce and domestic violence laws. Actually there is not much reacting going on, so just watch the video.

This is bad, obviously, and equally obviously, engineered by those who want to destroy the institution of marriage.

Although this came about from “feminism,” women didn’t do it. It was feminist organizations mostly operated by Jewish and other Satanic entities. Women do have a tendency to support such things today, because they are not much able to see that causing harm to those who you are engaged in cooperation with (men), results in no more cooperation. Most women can’t really think that far ahead. Pearly and many other women do understand this, but that is above average.

In other words, Matriarchy Does Not Exist.

So, if there is to be any resolution of these problems, it will fall upon men to fix them. This will mean political organization to influence State and Local legislation.

Some women will support these men, acting to fix these problems, but that is about all you should expect.

Alongside this, although many men will of course act to manage their interactions with women along these lines (for example banning any sleepovers), other men, who are more marriage-minded, will have to act deliberately to set up the conditions for a successful marriage within this environment.

Over time, we are seeing the separation of the Home and Family tribe from the Just Having Fun tribe.

A Brief History of Courtship and Dating

Here is a nice item on “courtship” and “dating,” via Lori Alexander:

A Brief History of Courtship and Dating in America, Part 1, by Skip Burzumato

A Brief History of Courtship and Dating in America, Part 2, by Skip Burzumato

This is pretty good, but it is from 2007. And also, it is somewhat in the middling/laggard part of the social spectrum, even for 2007. In other words, it reflects more of a mid-1990s mood. In 2007, “conservatives” were “conserving” the habits of the mid-1990s.

Today, more people are looking not just for methods to navigate today’s “dating landscape,” but a way to check out completely. This is a nice idea, but in the end, those girls who decide, let’s say at Age 14 or Age 16, to pursue chastity and “courtship,” are going to have to be rewarded for their decisions. They are going to have to actually get married, to somewhat attractive men, and not at Age 29. More like Age 20. Also, there should be a way for somewhat attractive men, who are interested in finding a good wife who is on the courtship path (a virgin Age 16-20) for marriage within perhaps six months, to actually get a good wife. The supply of debt-free virgins without tattoos, who are not overweight, is small, but the effective demand seems to be even smaller.

Unfortunately today, parents have gotten into the habit of leaving these things mostly to children. Not only do parents do nothing, they even say nothing. Many young people are set adrift without even four or five sentences about how to do things. And how is a 16yo supposed to “court” exactly, without the help of parents? In the past, they went to dances, parties and so forth — all of it organized by parents. In “dating,” most of this was left to young people, and of course it was basically anarchy, limited only by young people’s sense of propriety. This sense was real in the 1990s, where for most people it was expected that sex and a “serious relationship” (long-term monogamous partnership likely leading to marriage) went together. But, as it is only a “sense” among 16 or 18yos, of course it deteriorated over time. The point is, parents today have little example of establishing and basically managing the framework for courtship. The recent attempts, the Purity Movement, failed to get anyone married.

No Child Support

What if we just got rid of child support?

If a woman has a child without getting married first, the responsibility to support the child is on her. Or, whoever has custody of the child — maybe some men would step up.

If there is a divorce, whoever has custody of the child is responsible for it. A woman can make money just like a man. A man can drop off an infant in daycare, or an older child in public school, just like a woman.

Both of these outcomes seem OK to me.

The Child Support system actually dates from … 1975!

We got along fine without it — better, mostly.

Also, we should eliminate alimony.

Women Want to Get Married Eventually

I think it is a good thing that nearly all women eventually want to get married. What if they didn’t? But, since it is so ubiquitous, it is also, in a sense, meaningless. The question for men is: which of these women are actually capable of being a Good Wife and a Good Mother? Maybe, not a lot.

Porn queens Riley Reid, Mia Khalifa, and now Lana Rhoades all want to get married. Reid and Khalifa actually did. Here’s Lana, a single mother, now saying that she is a waiting-until-marriage girl. Of course it is a joke, but at least reinforces the idea that waiting-until-marriage is maybe not a bad thing; and that some women will say anything, eventually, no matter how nonsensical.

Maybe she is intentionally trolling. But, it seems that the people who have seen it all, come to the same conclusions. For example, the “No Hymen No Diamond” guy, Undead Chronic:

Looking Kinda Chubby There Helen

Helen Roy, who is admirable for many things, has unfortunately slipped from her Dream Babe status. She had a child, which is fine. In the process, she put on a lot of weight; hasn’t been losing it; and instead is making a lot of excuses.

While I think it is fine that a wife and mother in her thirties doesn’t look like a single 22yo, nevertheless, you don’t have to be a fatty.

It is hard for any person to be good at everything. Still, you can try.

The most important thing, for keeping a slim healthy body, is what you eat, not how much. Basically, natural, single-ingredient foods. Get some exercise.

Seven Items

Not a bad idea. These are things that every woman can accomplish, without all that much difficulty. You don’t have to be in the Top 10% for height, or Top 5% for income; a combination that excludes 99.5% of Men.

The most important one is #7: Make His Life Easier. A “helpmeet” is a meet help. “Meet” means:

Even if you fail all the other points, a woman can find an equally unattractive man somewhere, who is willing to stay if you improve his life somehow. At the end of the day, a woman who makes things worse, not better, serves no useful purpose to a man. Maybe that woman can serve a useful purpose to an employer somewhere. Off to work.

Unfortunately, most women today do not meet this very low standard. Most men who get married end up regretting it, either torn to shreds in a horrible divorce, or stuck in a horrible marriage. Other men take note of this.

A woman has to offer at least the promise and potential of serving as a Good Wife and a Good Mother. Unfortunately, many women reject this as a matter of principle.

Today, although any woman could achieve all of the items on this list in the space of six months, most women would rather make excuses about why they don’t have to do that, and end up six months later no better off than they were before.

Increasingly, it seems like we are having a divide between women who a Serious, and everybody else.

Getting Married Early

Some people, who want to rebuild marriage and family, have been encouraging people to get married later rather than earlier. Statistically, it appears that later marriages have a better chance of success.

I do not think this is a good idea. For one thing, if you are going to wait until after marriage to have sex — which most of these marriage-and-family people also encourage — then you would be waiting a loooooong time. Not only would you be waiting a looooong time, but also, most people wouldn’t make it. Somewhere along the way, while crossing the Sahara Desert of abstinence, they will keel over and die. Also, if you want to wait until you get married to have children, then you would be skipping most of a woman’s window of prime fertility, age 18-32.

Once we do this, we are also promoting careerism for women. What are women supposed to do between ages 18-28, while they are waiting (sexlessly) to get old enough to marry? Are they going to live with their fathers? Are they going to make a living on their own? If they invest a lot of time and energy into building a career during their twenties (and why not, since they aren’t raising children), are they then going to abandon that a Age 31, to become stay-at-home Moms? Are they going to become full-time working mothers? What exactly is the plan here?

One of the advantages to having children early is that they are out of the house early. If a woman is done having children at Age 30, then the last one is out of the house around Age 48. A woman has a good twenty years to have a career, if she wants to. Or, she can just “retire early,” which is what usually happens. Nice choice to have, don’t you think?

Are we really to believe that, with today the highest median age of marriage in US history, the “right” age to get married is actually … even later than that?

Let’s see what’s going on here.

The better-raised, and more self-disciplined, segments of society today are upper-middle income families who send their children to four-year residential colleges. Only in this subset has marriage remained a reliable institution. Once we step out of these pleasant, leafy neighborhoods, we get into a swamp of dysfunction — single parent households, two working parents, children abandoned to television, social media, daycare and public schools, and a dozen other bad things you could name. If the upper-middle class is doing better than average, then everyone below this strata is doing, by definition, worse than average — worse even than today’s very poor averages.

Among the upper-middle class, marriage has been delayed by several patterns: careerism particularly among women, related factors such as student debt and inability to establish a separate household, and also, a tendency to draw out the process of marriage by an incredible 58.7 months from first meeting to the wedding day, much of this spent in cohabitation.

These are all bad patterns, it seems to me. What if the upper middle class today had the habits and customs of the upper middle class of the 1960s, or 1890s? Women would prioritize home and family, leading to much earlier marriages (for women). The risk of divorce, even keeping the legal environment the same, would probably be lower than today.

Getting Married Without Boyfriends

In the past, Courtship did not involve “boyfriends.” This is hard to imagine today, where it seems like you need a “boyfriend” for … about 58.7 months … to get married. But, that is a new thing.

Here, as a counterexample, is Bingley and Jane in Pride and Prejudice, a representation of “courting” from about 1810. Actually, this story has a lot of drama, since Bingley is convinced not to marry Jane at first, as she is well below him in social class. Probably, Bingley should aim a little higher, and Jane should aim a little lower. Since this is women’s fantasy, Bingley does marry Jane. But, there were no boyfriends, and not even any kissing first.

Probably many women would say: “OK, that’s fine with me, especially if he is as rich and good looking as Mr. Bingley.”

But what about men today? If you had, in front of you, a 22yo virgin, who is also a local beauty, from a good family, who is almost certain to be a Good Wife and Mother, trained in that role from birth, and you had to make an up/down decision with no kissing first, could you do it?

Can’t Sleep On The Thoroughbreds

I met a young guy who was recently hired by a friend of mine (at a prestigious bank), who is close to retirement.

He is about 23. He has a long-term girlfriend, who he has been together with for about six years. I didn’t meet her, but I hear she is very beautiful.

Basically, they are High School Sweethearts, or maybe, met at the first year of college. Probably he is the only guy she has ever had sex with. Maybe she is the same for him. Probably, she is the same age, or a year or two younger.

He should just marry her. Right away. Plan for a wedding in three months. Get a prenup, and don’t sign any “marriage licenses.”

She has already said that she hopes he will marry her.

How can he possibly do better than this? Even if he dumped this girl, and they got back together three years later, she wouldn’t be the same. She has already demonstrated her ability to get along and maintain a long-term relationship. She is probably the most devoted woman this man would ever meet, in his life. (Unfortunately, not being exposed to most women today, he doesn’t know this.)

OK, it is possible, but not very likely.

I admit, it is somewhat difficult, or confusing, for a guy who is 23 and really just starting his career as “the new guy,” to consider wife and family. This is not what people do, today.

But, they have already been together for six years. Don’t dilly dally any more.

You don’t have to have children right away. You and her can just work, and live together, which is what you are doing already.

But, I would have children right away — at least three, in five years. This guy makes enough to support a wife and children. Babies don’t cost much. The wife would stay home, of course, but that is not a problem. A woman with newborns also doesn’t cost much. It is hard for her to even leave the house. No vacations in Greece, or even a restaurant trip.