Here is some info on a woman’s fertility with age. This is literally the chance per month (menstrual cycle) that a woman is likely to get pregnant if she has sex.
As we can see, it is at its highest around age 20-22 (info on teen years seems to be stable at the highest levels), and then falls off. After about age 37, it collapses.
Chance of miscarriage:
Chance of infertility:
In practical terms, I think of a woman’s prime childbearing years as around age 18-25, a secondary but still high plateau around age 26-32, a quick decline during 33-40 and a few wisps and vapors after 40. Thus, if we are to follow Natural Law, we should aim for women to get married and have children around 18-25, with her last children perhaps coming around age 32. From this it follows that there is not really much need for college and working.
I am not a practicing Christian, but I am Christian-friendly. Christianity, and its related institutions or traditions, is basically the “operating system” by which Western Civilization runs. There are other good operating systems. iOS and Android are both pretty good. China uses Confucianism and Japan uses Buddhism. But, Christianity is the one that we use.
Since a lot of discussion these days is taking place among Christians, I think it is useful to translate some Christian concepts into forms that non-Christians can make more sense of.
An old idea in the West, which links government, science and religion, is the notion of Natural Law. I will try to summarize.
Today, we would probably say that “Natural Law” is a “Law of Nature.” For example, gravity, or thermodynamics. If you jump off a tall building, you will get hurt. If you put your hand on a hot stove, you will get burned. This is not hard to understand. But, if God Created the Universe, then certainly Natural Law is also God’s Law. It is God’s Law that, if you jump off a tall building, you will get hurt. Or, from this natural cause and effect, you can then create principles of behavior. God’s Law is: don’t jump off tall buildings, and don’t put your hand on hot stoves. Or, as we would wish God to be not quite so informal: Thou Shalt Not Jump From Tall Buildings, Nor Put Thy Hand On Hot Stoves.
This is not hard to understand in terms of the physical world. But, there is cause and effect also in human affairs. For example, people who do crystal meth usually come to harm. It is not quite as straightforward as jumping off a building, but the outcomes, at least in a statistical or actuarial sense, are almost as certain. This causes harm to themselves, and inevitably, to others around them — their family, their parents, their neighbors, their society. It is thus “immoral” — actions which cause harm to yourself and others. “Immoral” behavior is basically destructive/harmful action, and “moral” behavior is constructive/beneficial action. Lose/lose behavior is immoral. Win/lose behavior might be immoral, if the overall outcome is a net destructiveness — if the loss is more than the gain. Win/win behavior is moral.
Thus, you could say that God’s Law is: crystal meth use is destructive, and thus immoral, from which we get the principle, which could also be called God’s Law: Thou Shalt Not Do Crystal Meth. We can also get the real-world legal statute: crystal meth use/sale is a crime and comes with a criminal punishment. Some of God’s Laws are human laws — Thou Shalt Not Kill — and some do not seem to come with human sanction — Thou Shall Put No Other God Before Me.
Crystal meth use is not too hard to understand. We are generally in agreement regarding the causes and likely effects here (although people do it anyway). Premarital sex, or promiscuity, or adultery are cloudier issues. And yet here too, there are causes and effects. Some outcome pertains; and it seems like the consequences are vast, although hard to define in their totality. God’s Law is that there are effects that arise from these causes; and that these effects are generally destructive. From this we get rules of behavior: Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery. However, to accurately analyze, understand and express these threads of cause and effect would challenge the brightest intellects of a generation. Even if they arrived at the right answer, for average and subaverage people to then make sense of it would be near impossible. Thus, people in general tend to rely upon “faith,” that God’s Law (principles based on cause and effect, with the intent of avoiding harm and producing positive outcomes) as it is expressed to them is correct, and they should follow these Laws without asking too many questions, or presuming that God’s Law is in error, and they have all the answers. Even if you look upon God’s Law as expressed in the Bible as a matter of cultural inheritance, the accumulated and refined wisdom of a hundred generations, four thousand years of human trial and error experimentation recorded in the form of anecdote rather than a message conveyed via burning bush from the Almighty, the outcome is much the same either way. If we do consider it direct communication from a higher intelligence, can we not say: good advice! There is cause and effect, from which we derive rules of behavior. Don’t jump off tall buildings, do crystal meth or commit adultery.
You can extend this even to the afterlife. It is pretty clear that God does not have a police force here on Earth, or a justice system. The punishments are in the nature of cause and effect. But, it is harder to say, for the Afterlife. You could say that the punishment for breaking God’s Law is that you won’t get into heaven. Sometimes this is seen as petty and arbitrary. For example, if God decrees that you must wear a blue hat on Wednesday, can we really imagine that we will be punished for such a thing? But what if, instead of arbitrary punishment, it is advice? Whether your version of Heaven is Christian or Hindu or Buddhist, commonly there is some kind of requirement to get there, which is basically to be “good.” Some kind of condition must be fulfilled to get off the “wheel of rebirth” or “samsara.” Only heavenly people get into heaven. In heaven, people only do things that bring good to others, not harm, and thus, the only people who are allowed in there are those who, on Earth, did things that created good, not harm. They were “moral.” God’s Law here is, again, cause and effect, but not only in our earthly world, but in the afterlife. You just aren’t going to qualify if you keep doing that stuff. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
The New Age-y people will talk of “Service to Self” (“bad”) and “Service to Others” (“good”). On Earth, people eventually graduate to an incarnation in one of these other worlds when they polarize toward one or the other. (Reincarnation was regular doctrine of the Catholic Church until the mid-sixth century A.D.) By “polarize” I mean that: They become very good, or very bad. Then, they go to a place where everyone there is just like them. One is called “heaven” and the other, consisting of people who only cause harm to others for personal gain: “hell.” In Heaven, the pattern is cooperation for mutual benefit in an egalitarian society. In Hell, the strong enslave the weak.
Christians often look to the Bible for inspiration and instruction. You have to look somewhere, after all. Why not look to the Bible, instead of, say, Ovid or Danielle Steele?
Let’s enjoy the final speech of Katherine (the Shrew), from Shakespeare’s The Taming of the Shrew, as played so well by Elizabeth Taylor in the 1967 movie from the play.
But first, as background, here is Katherine as we first meet her. The meek and beautiful Bianca is Katherine’s younger sister:
Here, Petrucchio (tempted by a big cash payoff from Katherine’s father, who is eager to be rid of her), proposes to Katherine.
Katherine’s final speech. She is still the same powerful, dynamic, pushy woman (she literally throws Bianca to the floor), but what a wife!
Men looking for wives in today’s swamp of party sluts looking for Captain Save-A-Ho and “good girls” ground down and worn out by a decade of “dating” might despair at the seeming lack of suitable women. But, actually, a CDC study found that 43% of senior high school girls were virgins in 2015, and this was actually up from 35% in 2009. A fairly large percentage of college girls (hard as it may be to believe) are also virgins. So, if you are aiming for the 16-25 range, there are still a lot of options even among those girls who are not necessarily pursuing a “no sex before marriage” strategy. I think that young women today have a vague sense that “dating” and “hookup culture” has become a meatgrinder from which few emerge with happy results, and they are pulling back a little bit. Still, they don’t know what else to do.
Nevertheless, only about 3% of women are virgins at marriage. So, it seems that premarital sex is part of the accepted path to marriage. This certainly creates problems for women: damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Those women who have deliberately chosen to avoid premarital sex, and even premarital kissing (!), are a lonely bunch. It is not easy for a girl to say today: “No, you can’t kiss me, but you can marry me.” Men don’t know what to do with that. In the “dating for fun and sex without commitment” model, it is an instant dealbreaker.
The point here is: virtuous girls are rare today, but the men who want them are even rarer, so there is a relatively large amount of supply and not very much demand. Rather nice girls are getting no attention and languishing unmarried, and even unkissed. This is good for the man that is considering pursuing the Courtship Model to find a wife today.
Let’s meet a few of these girls.
Never been kissed at 19. Any man who is unmoved by her particular manner of gentle romantic coquettishness could probably use some testosterone injections.
Six years later …
Miss Universe competitor from Philippines says that she has never had a boyfriend. (Yes, I know but that’s what she says.)
Yesterday, our pastor said that an atheist man set out to figure out what destroys nations. His conclusion was that the leaving of morals (disintegration of family and unbound sexuality) is what destroys nations in three generations. We can see this happening in our nation.
Chapter 3.XLVIII.—How Gargantua showeth that the children ought not to marry without the special knowledge and advice of their fathers and mothers.
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Could the Goths, the Scyths, or Massagets do a worse or more cruel act to any of the inhabitants of a hostile city, when, after the loss of many of their most considerable commanders, the expense of a great deal of money, and a long siege, they shall have stormed and taken it by a violent and impetuous assault? May not these fathers and mothers, think you, be sorrowful and heavy-hearted when they see an unknown fellow, a vagabond stranger, a barbarous lout, a rude cur, rotten, fleshless, putrified, scraggy, boily, botchy, poor, a forlorn caitiff and miserable sneak, by an open rapt snatch away before their own eyes their so fair, delicate, neat, well-behavioured, richly-provided-for and healthful daughters, on whose breeding and education they had spared no cost nor charges, by bringing them up in an honest discipline to all the honourable and virtuous employments becoming one of their sex descended of a noble parentage, hoping by those commendable and industrious means in an opportune and convenient time to bestow them on the worthy sons of their well-deserving neighbours and ancient friends, who had nourished, entertained, taught, instructed, and schooled their children with the same care and solicitude, to make them matches fit to attain to the felicity of a so happy marriage, that from them might issue an offspring and progeny no less heirs to the laudable endowments and exquisite qualifications of their parents, whom they every way resemble, than to their personal and real estates, movables, and inheritances? How doleful, trist, and plangorous would such a sight and pageantry prove unto them? You shall not need to think that the collachrymation of the Romans and their confederates at the decease of Germanicus Drusus was comparable to this lamentation of theirs? Neither would I have you to believe that the discomfort and anxiety of the Lacedaemonians, when the Greek Helen, by the perfidiousness of the adulterous Trojan, Paris, was privily stolen away out of their country, was greater or more pitiful than this ruthful and deplorable collugency of theirs? You may very well imagine that Ceres at the ravishment of her daughter Proserpina was not more attristed, sad, nor mournful than they. Trust me, and your own reason, that the loss of Osiris was not so regrettable to Isis, nor did Venus so deplore the death of Adonis, nor yet did Hercules so bewail the straying of Hylas, nor was the rapt of Polyxena more throbbingly resented and condoled by Priamus and Hecuba, than this aforesaid accident would be sympathetically bemoaned, grievous, ruthful, and anxious to the woefully desolate and disconsolate parents.
1) Get Up Off Your Knees. 2) Get Your Patriarchy On. 3) Tell The Bitches What To Do.
Readership: Fathers; Parents; Grandparents; Christians; Introduction The author of Biblical Gender Roles made the following statements in a comment.* “From everything I have seen of Red Pill, it completely rejects a man appealing to a woman’s sense of duty and honor as if women are incapable of having any such sense. So according to the […]
Women getting to about 35 and freezing their eggs has become popular. I think it is little more than fantasy and delusion. Upfront, the process has an official success rate of 14.8%. But, that even assumes that we successfully get to the point of actually wanting to unfreeze those eggs, for example by finding a man. Roosh (yes, him) recently summed things up on Twitter.
Women: if you get to the “freezing eggs” point, I suggest:
Finding a husband pronto. Think “arranged marriage.”
Get artificially inseminated and becoming a single mother.
Stop using the Pill and don’t tell your boyfriend.
Accept your fate and be a wonderful Aunt with plenty of time and money for travel.
You are out of time. You have one last chance to stop fantasizing.
Whoa, is arranged marriage a thing now? I thought I was going to be very lonely with that one, for a long time. But, a lot of people are perhaps realizing that dragging out the getting-married process over 10-20 years causes little more than trauma and damage. Get it done.
This is a message for: men, although women should find it of interest.
In this life, you will either marry or not marry. You will either have children or not have children. If you do have children, I suggest that you marry first. (There have been some, such as Tom Leykis, who have suggested fulfilling your biological responsibilities by just impregnating a woman and paying child support; others have suggested surrogacy.) There are a lot of reasons, today, why marriage is a bad idea, which have been covered by the MGTOW people. But, in the end, some men will marry. In general I am a supporter of marriage and family, in principle. We are trying to get to the point where it can be recommended in actual practice as well.
In practice, about 92% of men eventually marry.
If you marry, marry deliberately. It is something that you Do or that you Do Not Do. Don’t stumble into it haphazardly, because your girlfriend, who is fun to hang around with on weekends but who you never considered fit to be your Wife and Mother Of Your Children, is pressuring you into it. If you are going to Do it, then you want to do it well. The consequences of failure here are enormous.
The only good reason to get married is to have children and family. Marriage also provides other benefits, including sex and companionship, and maybe evening meals that are much better than what you often cook for yourself. But, given the great risks, costs and restrictions of marriage today (and in fact in every era, though never so bad as now), there is no reason to get married just for sex or companionship alone.
Here I am going to suggest how a man today might find that the Courtship Model works for him, to achieve his goals.
In the Courtship Model, men marry young virgins, typically in the 16-25 age range, with an ideal around 18-20. You could use the Courtship Model for older women with a history, but this introduces complications and is suboptimal. The courtship process is quick: three months from an initial meeting to a wedding ceremony gives a general idea. It could be three days. But, it is a process, like the process of getting a job. It is not a stable state, like “dating,” that one continues indefinitely.
At first glance, this notion may seem impossibly distant. Are we seriously to believe that we are to marry a girl, without actually having sex … or kissing … her first?
But, that is not really so much of a concern in the Courtship model. If you are going to marry a girl, and it is going to be quick (let’s say three months from when you begin “courting”), then you can wait for three months, get married, and then you two can make love nonstop for a month. (This is called the “honeymoon.”) There is really nothing you are going to determine, regarding a girl’s ability to serve as a wife and mother to you, from giving her a poke in the crotch beforehand. Actually, this would probably cloud your judgement — and this is, I might say, the primary means by which so many women today who are unfit for marriage end up eventually finding husbands. Heavily-indebted sluts with tattoos have to do something when, around age 28, they decide to go looking for their Captain Save-A-Ho, but don’t let them do it to you.
In the Courtship Model, you make it clear upfront that you are looking for a wife, and there is going to be a straight Yes or No result in a short amount of time. Women too, given a Take It Or Leave It proposal, might find that they would rather Take It than take their chances with whatever other nebulous happenstance (“dating”) that constitutes her other options, even if she doesn’t really know you that well.
The advantage of the girl who does not have sex with you before marriage is, of course, that she also does not have sex with other men before marriage. Remember how sweet and tender your first girlfriend was? It was probably in high school. A woman will never have that kind of pair-bonding potential again. Every time a woman has a failed relationship (including those that she ends herself), she adds to her distrust and hard-heartedness towards men. She builds the habit that relationships don’t last. This is one reason why marriages with virgin brides have the highest success rate, even in an environment like ours today where divorce is promoted from every angle.
Among other things, a woman that is a virgin at marriage today is already well-practiced at separating herself from the mainstream culture. It is true that this may have been imposed on her by her parents, and reinforced by her community such as a church group — and she might not be so successful at this when these supports are removed. Nevertheless, it is a good precedent for avoiding all the other negative influences from media and society that she will be exposed to throughout her life.
This woman should be young — age 16-25, with an ideal around 18-20. I would not cross out sixteen-year-olds today. You might have to get things rolling at an early point, maybe have a discussion with her mother, so that she does not end up going off to college and making a mess of her wifely potential. Then, you can marry at 18. Saint Mary was sixteen when she married Joseph, who was much older. It worked out OK. She is not going to get any better with age.
You can scope out the family that she comes from, which will probably be pretty good. Their wealth and status is not such a big deal, since it is primarily you who are bringing the money to the table, but obviously there is better and worse here. Look for high standards, a strong sense of morals and behavior, and encouragement of wifely skills and natural feminine inclinations, such as a love of children. There aren’t many quality virgin girls who grew up in single-mother households with a revolving door of boyfriends. Feminists go direct to the trashcan, although it is hard to imagine a (voluntary) feminist virgin.
Of course she should be pretty, and slim, but it is not necessary that she be a great beauty. As has been said many times down through the centuries, sometimes it is nice to have a wife that does not attract the attention of every man in the room. Often, a husband sort of forgets what his wife looks like, due to constant exposure. He doesn’t really know if another man might think her very pretty, or not so much. Even if she really is an extraordinary beauty, you won’t care that much, and whether she has a bad habit of nagging and complaining, or if she is a good cook, will be much more important to you. Likewise if she is somewhat plain. But, there is no reason to accept ugly and fat girls, unless perhaps they come from wealthy families. In general, if a woman is tolerably pretty and slim, then various character traits are much more important than an additional step up in beauty. Beauty is often overvalued in the wife-choosing process, and also, it fades. Just as location, location, location is the rule for real estate (rather than the building itself, such as how many bathrooms it has, which tends to get too much attention from the homebuyer), so too character, character, character is the rule for women. It is said that, after age 40, you get the face (and body) you deserve, and many women who were a 6/10 in their youth can advance to an 8/10 or even9/10, compared to other women in their age group, from taking good care of themselves. Other women crash into obesity. In other words, character also produces beauty, later in life.
Probably you will want a wife whose intelligence is somewhat similar to your own. An intelligent man will want someone he can talk with. A man of average intelligence will want a woman who does not think he is a dunce. But, intelligence is not the same as education, or the ability to jump through educational hoops on demand. Smart girls are usually smart in their free time. Look for the seventeen-year-old girl who is reading George Eliot for fun because she finds Hollywood movies intolerably stupid. She isn’t going to get any smarter at college. But, a woman can be a very good wife, without needing much intelligence. Character is not the same as intelligence. There are a lot of smart girls who will use their wonderful brains to figure out novel ways to skin you alive in divorce court, or to invent a neverending deluge of plausible reasons why It Is All Your Fault, or why you need to do XYZ because Feminism.
It helps if you are in love with each other — that there is mutual attraction that goes beyond your respective “courtship resumes,” and it is not so much of a dry business proposition. Since you will probably have a fair amount of experience, and she not very much, it might be mostly a matter of her falling in love with you, and you liking it. Often, all this takes is for her to be in your general vicinity for an adequate amount of time — with the unspoken understanding that she might be riding your dick soon if things go well, which is pretty exciting for a virgin of eighteen. This is one goal of the courtship process.
Much more can be said about these matters, which I will get to in time. But, already perhaps I have convinced many men that the Courtship Model is what they want to follow, when it is their time to do what 92% of men eventually do.
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